Idea for army.
I want to use poppy seeds as "bugs" on my Plague Wing bases. another idea, make maggots out of green stuff.
Maggots would go on Plague Marines Bugs would go on Termies.
Tuesday, October 30, 2007
Link
http://www.pbase.com/excarnificator/death_guard
Awesome paint and modelling job, more inspiration.
looks like he used a zombie arm on one model to show it without the armour. painted the fingers black and skin a dead-pale color. love-it!
Makes me think a bit more about my marines. he has a shoulder pad with a *chunk* taken out of it and a piece of msh beneath. awesome idea.
he's got more damage on his armour, looks more "melted".
i still need one box of marines and one box of terminators. will make some of them more damaged. probably before i take them off the sprue or shortly thereafter. the only problem with doing the damage then is knowing where it will end up when the model is assembled...
Awesome paint and modelling job, more inspiration.
looks like he used a zombie arm on one model to show it without the armour. painted the fingers black and skin a dead-pale color. love-it!
Makes me think a bit more about my marines. he has a shoulder pad with a *chunk* taken out of it and a piece of msh beneath. awesome idea.
he's got more damage on his armour, looks more "melted".
i still need one box of marines and one box of terminators. will make some of them more damaged. probably before i take them off the sprue or shortly thereafter. the only problem with doing the damage then is knowing where it will end up when the model is assembled...
PlagueWing Termy pics
Again, crappy lighting = crappy pictures, but it's progress.
also, all the detail work will be a lot more visible after paint.
also, all the detail work will be a lot more visible after paint.
Plague Wing WIP pictures
1st up Plague marines.
I went ahead and greenstuffed all the fun boils and sores all over them, these are just a few of my boys. also there's tubes sticking out and combat damage (bullet holes, cracks in the armour)
sorry, crappy lighting = crappy pictures
I went ahead and greenstuffed all the fun boils and sores all over them, these are just a few of my boys. also there's tubes sticking out and combat damage (bullet holes, cracks in the armour)
sorry, crappy lighting = crappy pictures
Friday, October 26, 2007
Icon Ideas
So my termies need an icon.
I was thinking of using the Icon of Chaos Glory from the Chaos Space Marines box and modelling a triangle of greenstuff to look like hives or pustules over it. similar to the ones used here on the shoulder pad:
http://www.deathguard.org/images/luridusfront.jpg
I was thinking of using the Icon of Chaos Glory from the Chaos Space Marines box and modelling a triangle of greenstuff to look like hives or pustules over it. similar to the ones used here on the shoulder pad:
http://www.deathguard.org/images/luridusfront.jpg
More Math Hammer
So, in my drive to work this morning I got to thinking. how would my orks fare against my new plague wing.
SO i thought up the following scenario:
how many basic troops would it take to drop a single model of the opposite army?
So I used Slugga Boyz vs. Plague Marines.
1st up Plague Marines charging a Slugga Boy.
Plague Marine gets 2 swings on the charge and with a higher initiative. 50% of those will hit making 1 hit.
with that 1 hit we have 50% chance to wound making for 0.5 wounds.
with their measely save 16% of those wounds will be saved for a remainder of 0.41 kills.
by that we know that we would need 3 Plague Marines (5 swings) to drop one Ork in one round of close combat. Making 69 points to kill 9 points of orks.
On the flip side:
Orks get to double their initiative with Power of the Waaagh! to 4 on the charge. two attacks base +1 for the charge, +1 for the 2nd cc weapon. however, Plague Marines have blight grenades which negate the charging bonus.
1 Ork gets 3 attacks @ 50% to hit = 1.5 hits
1.5 hits @ 33% to wound = 0.50 wounds
0.50 wounds@ 33% chance to miss the armour save = 0.16 missed saves
0.16 missed saves @ 50% chance on Feel No pain = 0.08 kills.
From this we can determine that we need 36 Ork hits to kill one Plague Marine. This comes to 12 Orks (108 points) to kill 23 points of Plague Marines.
What this works out to is you need 11.99 points of Orks to kill one point of Plague Marines while you only need 2.39 points of Plague Marines to kill one point of Orks
Winner: Plague Marines
SO i thought up the following scenario:
how many basic troops would it take to drop a single model of the opposite army?
So I used Slugga Boyz vs. Plague Marines.
1st up Plague Marines charging a Slugga Boy.
Plague Marine gets 2 swings on the charge and with a higher initiative. 50% of those will hit making 1 hit.
with that 1 hit we have 50% chance to wound making for 0.5 wounds.
with their measely save 16% of those wounds will be saved for a remainder of 0.41 kills.
by that we know that we would need 3 Plague Marines (5 swings) to drop one Ork in one round of close combat. Making 69 points to kill 9 points of orks.
On the flip side:
Orks get to double their initiative with Power of the Waaagh! to 4 on the charge. two attacks base +1 for the charge, +1 for the 2nd cc weapon. however, Plague Marines have blight grenades which negate the charging bonus.
1 Ork gets 3 attacks @ 50% to hit = 1.5 hits
1.5 hits @ 33% to wound = 0.50 wounds
0.50 wounds@ 33% chance to miss the armour save = 0.16 missed saves
0.16 missed saves @ 50% chance on Feel No pain = 0.08 kills.
From this we can determine that we need 36 Ork hits to kill one Plague Marine. This comes to 12 Orks (108 points) to kill 23 points of Plague Marines.
What this works out to is you need 11.99 points of Orks to kill one point of Plague Marines while you only need 2.39 points of Plague Marines to kill one point of Orks
Winner: Plague Marines
Thursday, October 25, 2007
Inspiration
Dipping inspiration:
http://www.pbase.com/bigo/dg&page=1
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=77669&hl=paintathalon
Poppy seed bug swarms inspiration:
http://deathguard.org/image.htm
Battle damage and boils/pustules:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/chaosspacemarines/painting/cults/nurgle.htm
Oodles of links on all things nurgly:
http://www.muschamp.ca/Muskie/links.html#Nurgle
http://www.pbase.com/bigo/dg&page=1
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=77669&hl=paintathalon
Poppy seed bug swarms inspiration:
http://deathguard.org/image.htm
Battle damage and boils/pustules:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/chaosspacemarines/painting/cults/nurgle.htm
Oodles of links on all things nurgly:
http://www.muschamp.ca/Muskie/links.html#Nurgle
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Plague Wing Progress
The unit of Chaos Space Marines I had purchased have been modeled.
I scored cracks in their armour, drilled small holes to represent bolter shots and took out chunks of the armour around the bolter holes with my xacto.
then i learned how to work greenstuff. (albeit beginner-style) i've put at least 2 areas of festering wounds on each plague marine. and (imo) they look GOOD. pictures are forthcoming, was just too damn tired last nght.
last nights work consisted of greenstuffing the termies to make them look good 'n' Nurgly. again, came out as well as the Plague Marines
i'm out of superglue so will pick some up in the near future. when I do i will be able to use the guitar string as hoses (poking out of the helmet and armour)
again, pictures are forthcoming.
I scored cracks in their armour, drilled small holes to represent bolter shots and took out chunks of the armour around the bolter holes with my xacto.
then i learned how to work greenstuff. (albeit beginner-style) i've put at least 2 areas of festering wounds on each plague marine. and (imo) they look GOOD. pictures are forthcoming, was just too damn tired last nght.
last nights work consisted of greenstuffing the termies to make them look good 'n' Nurgly. again, came out as well as the Plague Marines
i'm out of superglue so will pick some up in the near future. when I do i will be able to use the guitar string as hoses (poking out of the helmet and armour)
again, pictures are forthcoming.
Monday, October 22, 2007
Plaguewing Update
1st off: I worked the Warlords of Miami 1500 point RTT this weekend. Had fun, checking out armies (not a fan of Blue Table's painting, waaay too $$ for way too little work).
I picked up a box o' termies to work on my plague wing. i also picked up some guitar string and sculpting tools. i will be using the guitar string on the termies to make them more "nurgly" and the sculpting tools will be used to enhance my Greenstuff skills.
2nd I'm looking at bringing my Plaguewing list up to 1500 points and i'm at a loss as to what to add:
2 more termy squads2 more plague marine squads1 plage marine squad + 1 termy squad
Termies:
+ Badass looking
+ Deep Striking
+ Reaper Autocannons
- $ Expensive (5 for $50)
- Point expensive
Plague Marines:
+ Rhinos
+ Plasma guns are less lethal
+ Feel No Pain
+ Fearless
+ $ Cheap ($35 for 10)
- Not Plaguewing
Basically if i add 2 termy squads i need to decrease the squad size of the plague marines. this would compromise one of my rules in building the list: 7 models to a unit
however, 2 plague marine units would mean i've got 4 plague marines and one unit of termies. thus i don't think i could call it a "plague wing" at that point.
one unit of each would then give me 3 plague marines (good at holding objectives) and 2 termies, good, but i think it could be done better.
I like the thought of deep striking 3 units of termies, but i'm not guaranteed to get them all at once, which sucks. and piecemeal i may as well just serve them up on a plate. Not a lot of experience on the subject between my playgroup and people online, but fielding the question anyways.
Perhaps i'll add uints after the "base" plaguewing is done that aren't as "plaguewing-y" maybe obliterators and stuff.
side thought: an apocalypse game with the plague wing:
3 units of termies
3-4 units of plague marines in rhinos
1 daemon prince w/wings
1 chaos sorcerer in termy armour
1 chaos Drednaught (heavy?)
2 3 man teams of obliterators
I picked up a box o' termies to work on my plague wing. i also picked up some guitar string and sculpting tools. i will be using the guitar string on the termies to make them more "nurgly" and the sculpting tools will be used to enhance my Greenstuff skills.
2nd I'm looking at bringing my Plaguewing list up to 1500 points and i'm at a loss as to what to add:
2 more termy squads2 more plague marine squads1 plage marine squad + 1 termy squad
Termies:
+ Badass looking
+ Deep Striking
+ Reaper Autocannons
- $ Expensive (5 for $50)
- Point expensive
Plague Marines:
+ Rhinos
+ Plasma guns are less lethal
+ Feel No Pain
+ Fearless
+ $ Cheap ($35 for 10)
- Not Plaguewing
Basically if i add 2 termy squads i need to decrease the squad size of the plague marines. this would compromise one of my rules in building the list: 7 models to a unit
however, 2 plague marine units would mean i've got 4 plague marines and one unit of termies. thus i don't think i could call it a "plague wing" at that point.
one unit of each would then give me 3 plague marines (good at holding objectives) and 2 termies, good, but i think it could be done better.
I like the thought of deep striking 3 units of termies, but i'm not guaranteed to get them all at once, which sucks. and piecemeal i may as well just serve them up on a plate. Not a lot of experience on the subject between my playgroup and people online, but fielding the question anyways.
Perhaps i'll add uints after the "base" plaguewing is done that aren't as "plaguewing-y" maybe obliterators and stuff.
side thought: an apocalypse game with the plague wing:
3 units of termies
3-4 units of plague marines in rhinos
1 daemon prince w/wings
1 chaos sorcerer in termy armour
1 chaos Drednaught (heavy?)
2 3 man teams of obliterators
Thursday, October 18, 2007
Strategum Plague Wing
Plague Marines -
+ Make dead hard objective holders.
+ In cover with 3+ armour saves. being assaulted means striking @ I10 and the opponent loses the charging bonus attacks due to Blight Grenades.
+ T5 means MEQs wound on 5's. (33% chance to wound)
+ 3+ save means 66% chance to wound (Down to 21.78% wounds)
+ Feel No Pain means 10.89% dead Plague Marines per attack (9.1827 hits = 1 kill)
+ Keep together in order to reinforce overlapping fire lanes
Rhinos -
+ Move footslogging plague marines up the board
+ smoke makes the tin-foil armour of the rhinos a little more survivable
+ once troops unload Rhinos provide mobile cover
+ two rhinos can funnel enemy into a turkey shoot
Terminators -
+ Deep strike off of plague marines icons
+ provide close support to plague marines
+ T5 again means 33% to hit from MEQs
+ 2+ armout save means 10.89% dead termies (9.1827 hits = 1 kill)
Daemon Prince -
+ Not insta-killable
+ Strength + 2D6 armour penetration
+ Wings allow it to keep up with the rhinos
+ Psychic power - Wind of Chaos to kill masses of enemies shooting-style. May use Nurgle's Rot instead as the DP will most likely be in hand-to-hand and kill as many enemy as possible.
Basically, roll the rhinos up to an objective and "camp" it. Unload plague marines then deep strike the termies in the area. Termies provide close support and some assault punches. Daemon prince to tie up squads (squishy-squishy) who may be too much for my Plague Marines and Termies to handle. Essentially "turtling" on the objective while the enemy comes to me.
+ Make dead hard objective holders.
+ In cover with 3+ armour saves. being assaulted means striking @ I10 and the opponent loses the charging bonus attacks due to Blight Grenades.
+ T5 means MEQs wound on 5's. (33% chance to wound)
+ 3+ save means 66% chance to wound (Down to 21.78% wounds)
+ Feel No Pain means 10.89% dead Plague Marines per attack (9.1827 hits = 1 kill)
+ Keep together in order to reinforce overlapping fire lanes
Rhinos -
+ Move footslogging plague marines up the board
+ smoke makes the tin-foil armour of the rhinos a little more survivable
+ once troops unload Rhinos provide mobile cover
+ two rhinos can funnel enemy into a turkey shoot
Terminators -
+ Deep strike off of plague marines icons
+ provide close support to plague marines
+ T5 again means 33% to hit from MEQs
+ 2+ armout save means 10.89% dead termies (9.1827 hits = 1 kill)
Daemon Prince -
+ Not insta-killable
+ Strength + 2D6 armour penetration
+ Wings allow it to keep up with the rhinos
+ Psychic power - Wind of Chaos to kill masses of enemies shooting-style. May use Nurgle's Rot instead as the DP will most likely be in hand-to-hand and kill as many enemy as possible.
Basically, roll the rhinos up to an objective and "camp" it. Unload plague marines then deep strike the termies in the area. Termies provide close support and some assault punches. Daemon prince to tie up squads (squishy-squishy) who may be too much for my Plague Marines and Termies to handle. Essentially "turtling" on the objective while the enemy comes to me.
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
1st Squad
Almost done with my first squad. Finish modelling them last night, adding in some more holes in the armour and such.
will need to add more to the legs and backs.
also gotta get myself a sculpting tool in order to sculpt the greenstuff for boils and sores and stuff.
once that stuff is on they'll be done. i've got 10 of my 14 Plague Marines modeled.
I have:
1 Aspiring Champion w/pfist & Bolt pistol
1 with Plasma Gun
1 with Meltagun
1 with Icon of Nurgle
2 with Bolter
4 with bolt pistol and CCW
To Buy:
1 box 'o' Chaos Space Marines
2 Chaos Rhinos
1 Daemon Prince of Nurgle
2 boxes 'o' Termies
will need to add more to the legs and backs.
also gotta get myself a sculpting tool in order to sculpt the greenstuff for boils and sores and stuff.
once that stuff is on they'll be done. i've got 10 of my 14 Plague Marines modeled.
I have:
1 Aspiring Champion w/pfist & Bolt pistol
1 with Plasma Gun
1 with Meltagun
1 with Icon of Nurgle
2 with Bolter
4 with bolt pistol and CCW
To Buy:
1 box 'o' Chaos Space Marines
2 Chaos Rhinos
1 Daemon Prince of Nurgle
2 boxes 'o' Termies
Monday, October 15, 2007
Plague Marines
Bought a box 'o' Plague Marines a week or so ago. The package says "multipart metal and plastic miniatures". When they say "plastic and metal" they mean that the base is plastic. oh, the backpack is plastic as well.
i hate metal minis. a.) they have to be pinned. b.) you have to use super glue. c.) they're fragile. d.) they're hard to convert. e.) they have gaps which need filling.
so, needless to say, i built them. some of the scuplts are okay, but they're a bitch to convert and i didn't have the patience to pin them all. so i think they'll be my paint tests.
Saturday i bought a box of chaos space marines. 10 marines. the plastic ones. i love 'em. ised my pin vise and xacto to put holes in the armour. think i'll get a sculpting tool next pay period and greenstuff some boils and sores onto them.
then to the paint shop. gonna be primed white then painted camo green. metal will be done boltgun any boils and sores should be pink or purple, skulls and horns bleached bone. then to tha dip! minwax polyshades walnut stain. this should give a good shading to the model. then perhaps a layer or two of highlights.
to do list:
finish modelling
get sculpting tool
make boils and pustules
prime white
buy camo green (2 pots?)
basecoat camo green
metal boltgun
horns/skulls bleached bone
pustules/boils pink or purple (maybe purple with a pink highlight after dipping?)
buy poppy seeds for bugs
Buy Purity Seal
Buy Testors Dulcote
i really think these will turn out well. must make sure to paint test models first.
i hate metal minis. a.) they have to be pinned. b.) you have to use super glue. c.) they're fragile. d.) they're hard to convert. e.) they have gaps which need filling.
so, needless to say, i built them. some of the scuplts are okay, but they're a bitch to convert and i didn't have the patience to pin them all. so i think they'll be my paint tests.
Saturday i bought a box of chaos space marines. 10 marines. the plastic ones. i love 'em. ised my pin vise and xacto to put holes in the armour. think i'll get a sculpting tool next pay period and greenstuff some boils and sores onto them.
then to the paint shop. gonna be primed white then painted camo green. metal will be done boltgun any boils and sores should be pink or purple, skulls and horns bleached bone. then to tha dip! minwax polyshades walnut stain. this should give a good shading to the model. then perhaps a layer or two of highlights.
to do list:
finish modelling
get sculpting tool
make boils and pustules
prime white
buy camo green (2 pots?)
basecoat camo green
metal boltgun
horns/skulls bleached bone
pustules/boils pink or purple (maybe purple with a pink highlight after dipping?)
buy poppy seeds for bugs
Buy Purity Seal
Buy Testors Dulcote
i really think these will turn out well. must make sure to paint test models first.
Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Bored Orks
So I think my lack of progress on my Orks is because I think I’m bored of all things Orky. I await the new ‘dex. Hopefully a little more life can be put into them. I will set aside my green tide for the time being. Including my project Trukk replacement.
I think I need to try a model-light army which is why I’m going with Chaos.
I have bought my first box of Plague Marines. I have started my PlagueWing.
I have decided that I do not like the look and options of the Plague Marines. I will be building my plague marines out of Chaos Space marines with some GreenStuff’ing of boils and such. Would like the champions to have a horn coming out of a random place.
My pin vice will be hard at work putting holes in armour. My Xacto will be dulled by putting gouges in the armour.
My Plague Marines I have will be my paint tests. I plan on dipping them. So the paint plan will be:
Spray White
Spray Green (camo-green) basecoat
Paint armour, flesh, etc.
Dip in Minwax Polyshades Walnut stain
1-2 highlight layers
Base (use poppy seeds inked black as bugs).
I think I need to try a model-light army which is why I’m going with Chaos.
I have bought my first box of Plague Marines. I have started my PlagueWing.
I have decided that I do not like the look and options of the Plague Marines. I will be building my plague marines out of Chaos Space marines with some GreenStuff’ing of boils and such. Would like the champions to have a horn coming out of a random place.
My pin vice will be hard at work putting holes in armour. My Xacto will be dulled by putting gouges in the armour.
My Plague Marines I have will be my paint tests. I plan on dipping them. So the paint plan will be:
Spray White
Spray Green (camo-green) basecoat
Paint armour, flesh, etc.
Dip in Minwax Polyshades Walnut stain
1-2 highlight layers
Base (use poppy seeds inked black as bugs).
Monday, October 8, 2007
PlagueWing Begun
went to the local store, Joel's, to purchase a box of Chaos Space Marines that I could convert into hard-ass Plague Marines to begin my Plaguewing army. unfortunately...as luck would have it...Joel didn't have any...figures. so i bought a box of metal plague marines.
i hate 'em.
i think they're going to be paint proofs. prime and undercoat them then dip 'em. being metal i was going to pin them but then thought of pinning the entire army, and said "fuck it".
either going to wait till israel's store is open to purchase more of my plaguewing or use Neal at the Warstore.
bummed. :(
i hate 'em.
i think they're going to be paint proofs. prime and undercoat them then dip 'em. being metal i was going to pin them but then thought of pinning the entire army, and said "fuck it".
either going to wait till israel's store is open to purchase more of my plaguewing or use Neal at the Warstore.
bummed. :(
Tuesday, October 2, 2007
Final Draft - 1st Contagion PlagueWing
Ok, I think this is the final draft of my list. I have touched upon anti-tank. I have dropped the bikes. I think this should be my build list.
1st Contagion PlagueWing
HQ: Daemon Prince (Brother Funesto) - Mark of Nurgle, Wings, Wind of Chaos - 180pts
Troops: Plague Marines x7 (Squad Foedus) - Champion w/pfist, Melta x2, Personal Icon, Rhino - 261pts
Troops: Plague Marines x7 (Squad Detritus) - Champion w/pfist, Plasma x2, Personal Icon, Rhino - 271pts
Elites: Chaos Terminators x7 (Squad Pox)- Icon of Nurgle, Combi Melta x2, Reaper Autocannon - 285pts
===================================
995 points
24 models (including rhinos)
41.45 points per model
53.46% Troops28.64%
Elite18.09% HQ
When time comes to bring it up to 1500 points I believe another squad of Termies will be dropping in, along with some bikers. Basically running the Rhinos up front, deep striking off of the icons and if possible run the bikes behind the enemy and deep strike the termies behind as well causing a crossfire?
But for now, just the 1000 point list.
1st Contagion PlagueWing
HQ: Daemon Prince (Brother Funesto) - Mark of Nurgle, Wings, Wind of Chaos - 180pts
Troops: Plague Marines x7 (Squad Foedus) - Champion w/pfist, Melta x2, Personal Icon, Rhino - 261pts
Troops: Plague Marines x7 (Squad Detritus) - Champion w/pfist, Plasma x2, Personal Icon, Rhino - 271pts
Elites: Chaos Terminators x7 (Squad Pox)- Icon of Nurgle, Combi Melta x2, Reaper Autocannon - 285pts
===================================
995 points
24 models (including rhinos)
41.45 points per model
53.46% Troops28.64%
Elite18.09% HQ
When time comes to bring it up to 1500 points I believe another squad of Termies will be dropping in, along with some bikers. Basically running the Rhinos up front, deep striking off of the icons and if possible run the bikes behind the enemy and deep strike the termies behind as well causing a crossfire?
But for now, just the 1000 point list.
Monday, October 1, 2007
Revision to Plaguewing
So some holes have been punched in my previous list, but that's good! I asked for constructive criticism in order to help make a more fun and competitive list.
points of note:
1.) bikers too vulnerable. my fix for this was taking raptors @ 5 to a squad, but that would have been in the same boat after 2 kills. then the idea dawned to drop them altogether! loosening up 150 points for elsewhere. and it kept me a bit fluffier as i now wouldn't have a squad of 3 in an army made up of 7's.
2.) Lord wasn't right for the army. i looked back in the codex and read up on sorcerers and saemon princes and i think a DP will work better in the army. although more points than the lord, i think he'll be more effective as i can deep strike him if i like, he can't be instakilled, toughness 6 means it'll take a lot to kill him. also means that he can take out tanks and non-fearless units have to test to get into CC with him.
3.) Plague Marines were too vulnerable. It was suggested to give them rhinos. so i did, and they're super cheap!
3.) Not enough anti-tank. so i added some meltas and stuff.
without further adieu the revised list 10/1/07
HQ - Daemon prince - Mark of Nurgle, Wings, Wind of Chaos - 180 pts
Troops - Plague Marines x7 - Melta Guns x2, Personal Icon, Champion w/pfist, Rhino - 261 points
Troops - Plague Marines x7 - Plasma Guns x2, Personal Icon, Champion w/pfist, Rhino - 271 points
Elites - Chaos Terminators x7 - Icon of Nurgle, Combi Meltas x2, Reaper Autocannon - 285 points
======================
997 points
24 models (including rhinos)
41.54 points per model
53.36% Troops
28.58% Elite
18.05% HQ
I also thought about this today after adding in the rhinos, this is now very similar to the mech- idea i wanted in the beginning!
points of note:
1.) bikers too vulnerable. my fix for this was taking raptors @ 5 to a squad, but that would have been in the same boat after 2 kills. then the idea dawned to drop them altogether! loosening up 150 points for elsewhere. and it kept me a bit fluffier as i now wouldn't have a squad of 3 in an army made up of 7's.
2.) Lord wasn't right for the army. i looked back in the codex and read up on sorcerers and saemon princes and i think a DP will work better in the army. although more points than the lord, i think he'll be more effective as i can deep strike him if i like, he can't be instakilled, toughness 6 means it'll take a lot to kill him. also means that he can take out tanks and non-fearless units have to test to get into CC with him.
3.) Plague Marines were too vulnerable. It was suggested to give them rhinos. so i did, and they're super cheap!
3.) Not enough anti-tank. so i added some meltas and stuff.
without further adieu the revised list 10/1/07
HQ - Daemon prince - Mark of Nurgle, Wings, Wind of Chaos - 180 pts
Troops - Plague Marines x7 - Melta Guns x2, Personal Icon, Champion w/pfist, Rhino - 261 points
Troops - Plague Marines x7 - Plasma Guns x2, Personal Icon, Champion w/pfist, Rhino - 271 points
Elites - Chaos Terminators x7 - Icon of Nurgle, Combi Meltas x2, Reaper Autocannon - 285 points
======================
997 points
24 models (including rhinos)
41.54 points per model
53.36% Troops
28.58% Elite
18.05% HQ
I also thought about this today after adding in the rhinos, this is now very similar to the mech- idea i wanted in the beginning!
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